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Interview with Omie Dale PLUS FINA's ruling on trans swimmers and a rant about interview questions

Co-hosts Oge Ejizu and Fran Turauskis bring you a new type of episode. We ask Omie Dale, Director of Swim Unity, about Drowning Prevention Week, her passion for teaching people to swim, and the video series on beginners swim tips on Instagram. Plus, we talk about levels of proficiency in swimming and hiking.

After the interview, Oge and Fran address the FINA ruling against trans women taking part in swimming competitions, and Fran rants about the types of questions usually asked in interviews. We hope you enjoy it!

Follow Omie:



Omie: Follow Diversity in Aquatics

Oge: Follow Swim Unity and learn how to swim

Fran: Tell us what you thought of this new type of episode! You can email you can send a DM on Instagram or Twitter @OnTheOutsidePod, and you can now also send a voicenote or message via Whatsapp that number is 07883905336.


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CREDITS for the episode:

The hosts were Oge Ejizu and Fran Turauskis.

This episode’s guest was Omie Dale.

Produced and edited by Francesca Turauskis

Artwork by Sophie Nolan

Music is Bassbeat by Alex Norton

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